DEVIANT
From the award-winning creators of Down The Hill: The Delphi Murders, comes DEVIANT, a new true crime series that dives into the dark corners of what human beings are capable of. Hosts Dan Szematowicz and Andrew Iden tell good stories about bad people who do very bad things. Some people are wired for good. Some are wired for bad. And some are wired... to be Deviant. Follow the show wherever you listen and across socials @deviant.podcast (IG, TT, YT)
Episodes
Big News From DEVIANT
There are major changes afoot here at DEVIANT, and the show is evolving in a big way. Dan Szematowicz and Andrew Iden update you on what's happening, and what you can expect from the show moving forward. Buckle up! Learn more about your ad …
A Very DEVIANT Halloween
(ENCORE PRESENTATION) It's Halloween, and DEVIANT is do something unusual. Hosts Dan Szematowicz and Andrew Iden tell three ghost stories, all of which are based in the real. Turn on your spookie light...it's story time! 👉 Support the show…
(Part 5) Homicide and Hate: The Way Out
(PART 5/5) In the final episode of the series, Andrew Iden continues his conversation with Tyler DiPeppe, a former member of Atomwaffen Division who now works to help others escape extremism. Tyler talks about leaving the movement, the work…
(Part 4) Homicide and Hate: Leaving Atomwaffen Division | The Tyler DiPeppe Story
(Part 4/5) Tyler DiPeppe was once part of Atomwaffen Division, a violent neo-Nazi group born online. Now he’s ready to explain how it happened. In this conversation, host Andrew Iden speaks with Tyler about the abuse, isolation, and search …
(Part 3) Homicide and Hate: The Plea: Devon Arthurs and the Question of Sanity
(Part 3/4) Six years after he murdered his two roommates, Devon Arthurs stands before a judge in Tampa and says he’s ready to change. But as psychiatrists describe hallucinations, self-choking episodes, and conflicting diagnoses—from schizo…
(Part 2) Homicide and Hate: The Devon Arthurs Murders
(Part 2/4) Two days after the Tampa double murder committed by Devon Arthurs, police in Key Largo, FL arrest Brandon Russell, a Florida National Guard member, nuclear physics student and the co-founder of the extremist Atomwaffen Division. …
(Part 1) Homicide and Hate: The Devon Arthurs Murders
(Part 1/4) On a Friday afternoon in Tampa, 18-year-old Devon Arthurs walks into an apartment leasing office and says “I just killed two people.” Those two: his roommates...young men caught in the grip of online radicalization. What follows …
Punished For Future Crimes? | Dr. Samantha Stein on DEVIANT
Being punished for crimes you haven’t committed yet sounds like Minority Report. But in 15 states—including California—it’s the law. Under the Sexually Violent Predator Act (SVP), offenders who’ve already served their time can be held indef…
ENCORE: Jay Dobyns, Deep Undercover with the ATF
Former ATF agent Jay Dobyns spent 27 years undercover, from Waco and Columbine to infiltrating the Hell’s Angels in Operation Black Biscuit. In this Off Script conversation, he tells hosts Dan Szematowicz and Andrew Iden what it takes to li…
REVISITED: A Killer in Cleveland
Anthony Sowell terrorized Cleveland’s Mount Pleasant neighborhood in the late 2000s. A convicted rapist and registered sex offender, he went unnoticed for years—even as neighbors complained about a foul stench they thought came from the sau…
Policing, PTSD and the Price of Service
Former cop, detective and firearms instructor Glen Williams sits down with host Andrew Iden to talk about what the job really does to people—and how to survive it. This is a candid conversation about trauma (on the street, at home, and insi…
Summer School: The Life of a Private Investigator
Ever wonder what private investigators really do when the cameras aren’t rolling? Forget the Hollywood clichés—no wiretaps, no lockpicks, no magic gadgets. In this episode, host Andrew Iden and veteran PI Ken Childs pulls back the curtain o…
From Mob Cases to HRT: Inside the FBI with James A. Gagliano
Co-host Andrew Iden sits down with James A. Gagliano — West Point grad, former FBI Hostage Rescue Team operator, undercover agent, and two-term mayor — for a no-BS debrief on what the job really takes and how the mission shifted after 9/11.…
The Now and the New
Join Dan Szematowicz and Andrew Iden as they discuss recent updates in the cases they've been following, including the Devil's Den murders in Arkansas. The hosts share their thoughts on various policing strategies, polygraph use and extremi…
Off Script: Scammers and Red Flags
You've been conned, and now you're getting revenge. That's the story of Johnathan Walton, our guest on DEVIANT Off Script. In this episode, Johnathan shares his harrowing experience of being swindled out of nearly $100,000 by a professional…
The Devil in The Den
On a summer afternoon hike in Arkansas' Devil's Den State Park, tragedy strikes a family when Clinton and Cristin Brink are attacked in front of their children. The children survive. Their parents don't. The assailant: a mysterious man dre…
A Reckoning: Clark Fredericks Confronts Abuse
LISTENER DISCRETION ADVISED In this episode of Deviant Off Script, host Andrew Iden engages in a deep and intense conversation with Clark Fredericks, author of 'Scarred.' Fredericks recounts his harrowing journey of surviving childhood sexu…
Summer School: Mindhunting
In this episode of Deviant Summer School, host Andrew Iden sits down with Michael Yoder, a former agent in the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit (BAU), here to explain how criminal profiling actually works. From dispelling Hollywood misconcept…
Detecting Lies with Brad Beeler
We're diving dive deep into the world of polygraphs, interrogations, and lie detection with Brad Beeler, a former Secret Service agent with 25 years of experience. Brad shares insights from his illustrious career in protective services and …
Summer School: Finding Missing Children
Have you ever wondered how police handle a missing child case? In this episode of Deviant Summer School, retired detective Jeff Bell, who worked for the Sarasota County Sheriff's Office, shares his experiences and insights. He discusses his…
Catching Spies
(AUDIO ONLY) How do you catch a spy if you're an FBI counterintelligence agent? In this episode of Deviant Off Script, we dive into the 80-year cat-and-mouse game of espionage. Host Dan Szematowicz interviews LaRae Quy, a former FBI agent w…
Summer School: Solving Homicides, Part 2
(PART 2/2) In Part 2 of our DEVIANT Summer School class on homicide investigations, retired Chicago Police homicide Detective Mike Hammond takes us through the intricate process of catching killers. From establishing motive and gathering ev…
Corrections Officer to True Crime
In this episode, host Andrew Iden talks with Jacob Moon, a US Army veteran and former corrections officer who has transitioned into a true crime writer. Jacob shares his journey from serving in the military to accidentally finding a career …
Summer School: Solving Homicides, Part 1
(PART 1/2) It's Deviant Summer School's deep dive into the world of homicide investigations. Featuring former Chicago homicide detective Mike Hammond, part one of of a two part exploration covers the initial phases of an investigation—from…
Off Script: Investigating "Murderland"
From Ted Bundy to Gary Ridgeway, why does the Pacific Northwest produce so many serial killers? Join host Dan Szematowicz as he sits down with Pulitzer Prize winner Caroline Fraser, author of 'Murderland: Crime and Bloodlust in the Time of …
Summer School: Policing America
Join us as we kick off our new series, Deviant Summer School, where we bring experts to give in-depth insights into their fields. In this first episode, we talk to Dr. Darrin Porcher, a criminal justice expert with over 20 years in the NYPD…
Off Script: Catching Scammers with Jerri Williams
Former FBI agent Jerri Williams shares her extensive career spent catching scammers, con artists, and fraudsters. Williams discusses her unexpected path to the FBI, the challenges she faced as a minority and a woman in the bureau, and her n…
Introducing: My Best Friends Killer
In a quiet suburb of Utah, a Mormon man killed his wife, before committing suicide. Multiple neighbors described them as a normal couple whom they had never seen quarrel. But this isn't a whodunit. The police investigation never wavered on …
Inside the Secretive World of Air Marshals
The person sitting next to you on the plane may be armed, and that's not a bad thing. In this episode of DEVIANT Off Script, host Dan Szematowicz delves into the secretive world of Federal Air Marshals with David Londo, President of the Air…
Off Script: The FBI's Sleep Expert
Join Deviant host Dan Szematowicz for a conversation with Dr. Leah Kaylor, a psychologist and sleep specialist at the FBI. Dr. Kaylor shares a wealth of practical tips to enhance your sleep quality, from establishing relaxing bedtime routin…
The Hunt for Grant Hardin
On May 25, 2025, Grant Hardin, a convicted killer and former police chief, walks out of the North Central Unit in Calico Rock, Arkansas, disguised in a makeshift guard uniform. His escape sets off an intense manhunt involving the FBI, state…
From Crack Wars to Crime Novels: Patrick O'Donnell's Journey
(AUDIO ONLY) Former police sergeant Patrick O'Donnell joins Deviant Off Script to discuss his 25-year career with the Milwaukee Police Department, his experiences during the crack wars and his transition to becoming a best-selling author. P…
Witness to an Execution
Former journalist Michael Mayo recounts his experience covering the executions of two serial killers for the South Florida Sun Sentinel. Mayo details the emotional journey of interviewing victims' families, and witnessing the executions of …
Sex and Crime: Doug Fifer Has Seen It All
Sex is an integral part of human nature, but it sometimes intersects with crime in troubling ways. In this episode of DEVIANT Off Script, host Dan Szematowicz sits down with Doug Fifer, a former Anchorage Police Department officer renowned …
On the Front Lines of the Drug War
Brian Townsend, a retired DEA agent, shares his journey into federal law enforcement, his experiences with drug enforcement, nd his views on the ongoing battle against drug addiction in the United States. From his early days in Missouri and…
The Download
We get a lot of questions and a lot of comments, so in this episode, DEVIANT hosts Dan Szematowicz and Andrew Iden tackles them all. How does DEVIANT get made? How do we choose stories? Do Andrew and Dan hate each other? Your questions and …
Busting Motorcycle Gangs and White Supremacists
(2/2) In part two of our conversation with retired FBI agent Scott Payne, host Andrew Iden continues his deep dive into Steve’s years spent undercover in some of America's most dangerous circles. In part two, Scott delves into his experienc…
Undercover with America's Extremists
(1/2) In this episode of Deviant Off Script, we dive into the world of undercover law enforcement with retired FBI agent Scott Payne. Scott takes us through his incredible journey of infiltrating outlaw biker gangs, neo-Nazis, the KKK, and …
The Cory Barron Homicide
In 2014, Cory Barron is out for a night of fun at a stadium in Cleveland. He’s there to see Jason Aldean, and by all accounts, he’s having a great time. And then, he’s gone, seemingly into thin air. A few days later, his body is found in a …
And our next story is...
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