Episodes
Tying It All Together: The Ellen Greenberg Case
This week on The In Between Podcast, host Mel Barrett, revisits the night Ellen Greenberg was found with twenty stab wounds in her Philadelphia apartment—and the instant clash between an autopsy that pointed to homicide and a police narrati…
From Victim to Accused: The Veronika Rodriguez Story - The Sentence
In the final (for now) installment of From Victim to Accused, host Mel Barrett travels to Lebanon County Pennsylvania for Veronika Rodriguez' sentencing hearing. This is an in-depth discussion of what happened then and what's to come with f…
From Victim to Accused: The Veronika Rodriguez Story part five - Pier Hess Graf
In Episode five, host Mel Barrett, goes on a deep dive into the prosecutor in Veronika's case: Pier Hess Graf Pier Hess Graf didn’t just prosecute the alleged victim in this case, she went hard at Veronika Rodriguez, asking for up to 16 ye…
From Victim to Accused: The Veronika Rodriguez Story Part Four - Fahad Pervez
In this episode of The In Between Podcast, Mel spends an hour discussing the alleged assault of Veronika Rodriguez with the man she accused...Fahad Pervez Please share. Veronika's sentencing happens on August 20, 2025 so sharing this episo…
From Victim to Accused: The Veronika Rodriguez Story Part Three - Investigating the Investigators
In this episode of The In Between Podcast, Mel goes on a deep dive into the investigation and even manages to score an interview with an elusive guest. Please share. Veronika's sentencing happens on August 20, 2025 so sharing this episode …
DARK WEEK: Revisiting Live Free or Die: The Pamela Smart Story
This is a dark week for TIBP, as Mel is currently investigating the Veronika Rodriguez case which is very much a living, breathing story. A new episode about Veronika’s story will air next tuesday, August 5, 2025. Season One of TIBP, whic…
From Victim to Accused: The Veronika Rodriguez Story - An Update
It's getting wild. Here's an update about the case. This one's important. Please listen, share, rate, review. Veronika Rodriguez reported her rape to police. She even had evidence to prove it happened. Still police didn't believe her and…
From Victim to Accused: The Veronika Rodriguez Story, Part Two - Veronika
In part two of the Veronika Rodriguez Story, Mel digs into who Veronika is and how she got caught up in the fight for her life and liberty. Veronika Rodriguez reported her rape to police. She even had evidence to prove it happened. Still …
From Victim to Accused: The Veronika Rodriguez Story
Host, Mel Barrett, is bringing you another case that will blow your mind. Veronika Rodriguez reported her rape to police. She even had evidence to prove it happened. Still police didn't believe her and turned her from victim, to accused, t…
**BONUS** Pamela Smart says goodbye
To email Pam your condolences, go to SecurusTech.net and add Pam as a contact. Here's her info: PAMELA SMART 93G0356 Bedford Hills Correctional Facility You'll have to pay for stamps, but it's a minimal cost. If you'd like to donat…
Murder in Canton - The Retrial of Karen Read - The Finale
Join host, Mel Barrett, as she wraps up the Karen Read case, analyzes the post trial media, discusses what's next for the investigation and her own work on other cases. Join the club for AD FREE, exclusive behind-the-scenes, and bonus c…
SPECIAL DROP - The Readathon NOT GUILTY
Rebecca + Kevin from Crime Writers On and your host, Mel break down what happened on the final day of the Karen Read retrial - including a wild thing that happened in a parking lot in Dedham.
Murder in Canton - NOT GUILTY x3
Murder in Canton - Week Eight of the Retrial of Karen Read - CLOSING ARGUMENTS
Join host Mel Barrett as she breaks down the goings on in the retrial of Karen Read. This is week eight. The defense rests. Shockingly the Commonwealth doesn't offer a rebuttal and closing arguments keep us riveted before the jury gets the …
**INTRODUCING: Crime Seen #Cybersleuths: The Idaho Murders
In this special episode drop, host Mel Barrett introduces Crime Seen, a true crime review podcast that gets to the heart of how true crime stories are told with hosts Mari Forth & Sarah Carradine. Mel was a recent guest on the show and disc…
Murder in Canton - Week Seven of the Retrial of Karen Read
Join host Mel Barrett as she breaks down the goings on in the retrial of Karen Read. This is week seven. The defense is well into their case while one cop loses her mind and another switches sides. Also those gross texts from Michael Procto…
CALL-TO-ACTION Pamela Smart name-dropped in the NH House of Representatives
The state of New Hampshire keeps doing what they've done for 35 years...hating on Pamela Smart. Want to start changing minds? Link to NH Bulletin Article: https://newhampshirebulletin.com/2025/06/05/republicans-pass-parental-rights-bills-…
Murder in Canton - Week Six of the Retrial of Karen Read
Join host Mel Barrett as she breaks down the goings on in the retrial of Karen Read. This is week six and as you might expect from the Commonwealth...they introduce another tedious witness, their last, Dr. Judson Welcher. And the Commonweal…
**BONUS** UPDATE ON PAMELA SMART'S PETITION FOR COMMUTATION
Governor Kelly Ayotte and the state of New Hampshire have again rejected Pamela Smart's petition for commutation, but this time...they didn't even give her a hearing. Hear Pam's reaction in this episode. PAYIT2 Legal Fund: https://www.pay…
Murder in Canton - Week Five of the Retrial of Karen Read
Join host Mel Barrett as she breaks down the goings on in the retrial of Karen Read. This is week five, a short week for time, but not drama.  Subscribe for updates about the second trial and catch Mel on Crime Writers On The Readathon wit…
**BONUS** EXONERATION Samantha and Jules Werkheiser's Story
On this episode of The In Between, host Mel Barrett has an unfiltered and emotional discussion with Samantha and Jules Werkheiser, two women incarcerated with Pamela Smart, who were wrongfully convicted of child sexual assault. Their story …
Murder in Canton - Week Four Recap of the Retrial of Karen Read
Join host Mel Barrett as she breaks down the goings on in the retrial of Karen Read. This is week four and it's drama filled, even though witnesses and evidence are pretty technical and dry. Subscribe for updates about the second trial an…
**UPDATE** Karen Read Retrial Recap Late Release
Hey y'all, it's your host, Mel Barrett with a programming note. Week four of Murder in Canton The Retrial of Karen Read will drop tomorrow before 12p est. Sorry for the delay, but I'm coming at you with two episodes this week. Can't wait to…
Murder in Canton - Week Three Recap of the Retrial of Karen Read
Join host Mel Barrett as she breaks down the goings on in the retrial of Karen Read. This is week three and it's all about the investigation with two days focused on Massachusetts State Police Sergeant Yuri Bukhenik. Subscribe for updates …
**BONUS** The Readathon with Rebecca Lavoie from Crime Writers ON
Listen to your host, Mel Barrett on The Readathon with Rebecca Lavoie from Crime Writers On! Mel will be joining Rebecca Lavoie and sometimes Kevin Flynn from Crime Writers On on their hit show, The Readathon, where they will discuss the da…
Murder in Canton - Week Two Recap of the Retrial of Karen Read
Join host Mel Barrett as she breaks down the goings on in the retrial of Karen Read. This is week two and it's full of drama and a whole lot of different views on how this all went down. Plus, Judge Beverly Canone makes a HUGE decision on a…
Murder in Canton - Week One Recap of the Retrial of Karen Read
Join Mel Barrett as she breaks down the goings on in retrial of Karen Read. This is week one and it started with a bang! Subscribe for updates about the second trial and catch Mel on Crime Writers On The Readathon to discuss the new trial.…
DEEP DIVE The Investigation and (first) Trial of Karen Read
Host Mel Barrett goes on a mega deep dive into the investigation and first trial of Karen Read on the eve of her retrial. Subscribe for updates about the second trial and catch Mel on Crime Writers On The Readathon to discuss the new trial…
**UPDATE: New EARLY Episode Coming This Monday AND Mel B Joins Crime Writer's On The Readathon to Cover the New Karen Read Trial
An important update. Expect a big episode out on Monday, April 21, 2025 in anticipation of opening statements in the second Karen Read Trial starting on Tuesday, April 22, 2025. Also! Host of The In Between Podcast, Mel Barrett joins Cri…
A Mother on Death Row: Darlie Routier's Sister Tells Her Story
In a candid and emotional interview, Mel speaks with Darlie Routier's youngest sister, Danelle, about her sister, the night of the crime, and her family's belief that Darlie is wrongfully convicted of murdering her two young boys.Â
**UPDATE - New Episode out Wednesday 04/16
Just a quick update from host, Mel Barrett. Today's scheduled episode fell victim to the tech Gods, but not to worry, you'll have Mel's interview with Darlie Routier's sister, Danelle tomorrow.
**UPDATE** New Episode airs Wednesday, April 16th
Just a quick update from host, Mel Barrett. Today's scheduled episode fell victim to the tech Gods, but not to worry, you'll have Mel's interview with Darlie Routier's sister, Danelle tomorrow.Â
A Mother on Death Row: The Darlie Routier Story
On a quiet night in June 1996, the affluent suburb of Rowlett, Texas, was rocked by a brutal crime: 6-year-old Devon and 5-year-old Damon Routier were stabbed to death while sleeping in the family’s living room. Their mother, Darlie Routi…
*BONUS* Sam Nordquist's Family Tells Their Story
In this episode of The In Between Podcast, host Mel Barrett speaks at length with Sam Nordquist's mother and sister about the months leading up to Sam's disappearance and heinous murder and what happens next.
Missing Tortured Murdered - The Story of Sam Nordquist
Sam Nordquist was a typical twenty-four year-old guy. He loved TikTok, his family and friends, and animals. And like so many of us, Sam found love online. After a short period of dating, Sam traveled from his home state of Minnesota to meet…
*BONUS* A Conversation with Pamela Smart, Mel Barrett & Ellyn Marsh
Pamela Smart answers various questions and discusses an appeal and what's next. Want to listen AD FREE and get access to bonus content like LIVES, VIDEO, and behind-the-scenes content? Join our exclusive TIBP community here: https://patreo…
*BONUS* It Happened Right Here
Mel talks at length with someone very close to the case and the boys who perpetrated the murder, Raymond's brother, Robert. Robert goes into detail about what happened the night of the murder when the boys came back to his home and what i…
*BONUS* More Than Manson
Even Manson had the option of parole. Mel speaks further with the Sentencing Project and a Democratic Representative from NH who is introducing a new bill that might offer the opportunity of parole for Pamela Smart. Want to listen AD FR…
*BONUS* Pam Smart Responds
Mel got the chance to catch up with Pam, which gave her an opportunity to respond to the podcast so far. Want to listen AD FREE and get access to bonus content like LIVES, VIDEO, and behind-the-scenes? Join our exclusive TIBP community her…
Episode 8: Whisked Away
The media's role in creating the trope of the "manipulative ice princess" and how that categorization found Pam Smart's family desperately searching to find their daughter and sister within the prison system when she went missing during the…